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Ford to build plants for battery production

09/28/2021 15:32
ASHLEY P
Ford Motor says they'll build two plants (one in KY and one in TN) to build batteries and electric F150s. With an expected $11 BILLION dollar investment, the company is now surely going to spend millions to lobby and campaign AGAINST fossil fuels. Hello higher gas prices.
09/28/2021 22:59
FIRSTLAST
Pipeline to be built crossing NE, IA, to collect CO2 at ethanol plants. 4.5 billion project. More eminent domain fun for family farmers to fight. Path seems to follow Balkan oil fields Dakota Access pipeline. They want to injecttge liquefied CO2 into the ground strata of the oil fields I am guessing. Sounds like another hair brained scheme. The inje tion of fracked drilling fluids into Odessa TX, and Youngstown OH, have caused much geo strata distress,and countless earthquakes. This is Progress? We need off fuels. I am not sure mankind is smart enough to Technology ourselves out of this mess.
09/28/2021 23:08
FIRSTLAST
Ya know it's nearly October the days are cooking hot. I shift my roof and top of building work to the last 3 hours of the day to avoid the 90s. At this rate, I won't clear snow this winter.
09/30/2021 17:18
ASHLEY P
I'll spell out my point. Electric automobiles are not very popular right now. To invest BILLIONS of dollars on the success of a battery plant and truck production plant is risky. If gasoline supply is scarce and/or gas cost is HIGH, electric vehicles will be in demand. Thus, Ford has BILLIONS of incentives to drive up the cost of gasoline. Watch for Ford involvement in anything to accomplish that.
09/30/2021 22:32
FIRSTLAST
Ford is late to a game that IA moving rapidly in the global market. Virtually every city over a million population has out major restrictions on diesel, and gas is getting rapidly outlawed as well. We just have too many people, producing too much soot and toxins in cities which frequently are near oceans. The coastline of mountain meets sea is highly desirable locale, but extremely bad for pollutants. Los Angeles, Shanghai, Mumbai share coastal spots, trapped Valley air, dense particulate accumulation. As such, the skies are normally obscured, ne t to no visibility. Even in Anerica thiscyear,,we suffered smoke from Canada, some 900 miles North in the Ontario to Saskatchewan region, all on fire. When I traveled West, I was in smoke filled skies and haze my entire trip home, from US Western fires some 1000 miles away. The electrics are being mandated. US is a mere 330 million. The global market is 20 to 30 times that. You get with Europe, Asia, or you go out of business on our tiny market.. GM for a name made more money on Asia markrts than domestic. Trump did a huge harm to YS auto makers with his trade war and his blame Chiba for being evil routine. They switched loyaltie, quit buying Western brands. Mary Beara already joined in joint project in the former plant where my Volt was built in Ohio, to establish a bwttery domestic supply fir GM and GM truck. The battery may be a bridge to hybrid technologies like my Volt which is a gas engine generator car. My car van drive non stop coast to coast. It gets 60 mpg. If I can charge it, for local 40 mile range, it costs me zero fuel. All my driving commute and errands per day can be no carbon fuel, if I live local to my job. The cost to charge is minimal, off peak, 11 PM To 7 AM.
09/30/2021 22:44
FIRSTLAST
The big 3 are not pumping out electrics, they are pushing hybrids, as they have more market success and Ling range US driving application. I had one customer this year in a Tesla cross 1.5 states to come to my shop for a purchase. He had to charge at 3/4 of the one way route. It took him 30 minutes in his travel day. He however had to route across on I80, then drop South. The much more efficient diagonal 4 lane interstate choice was not doable, too rural, no charge stations that Teala can use. Tesla is apparently phenomenal, but also restrictive on charge. The 3.5 trillion infrastructure funded wide network of charging, and probably hardened our grid to set the future we need. Guessing that 4.5 billion ethanol plants pipeline of CO2 capture was in there too. I think we need some of this far spending more than we need hair brained get off the planet earth bullshit these silicone valley nitwits keep coughing up in their drug infuced smoke sessions. Global climate change is going to decimate population.
09/30/2021 23:52
ASHLEY P
If cars use electricity, where does that electricity come from? You claim "no carbon fuel", but that electricity had a source. Where?
10/01/2021 03:55
FIRSTLAST
I have answered this dozens of times? Seriously, you still don't know?
10/01/2021 04:15
FIRSTLAST
Industry getting pretty robust in CA. I wanted to findxarticle on the big carport complexes where staff park during their day jobs, charge cars from zero grid. Came across this. The US needs investment in state DOT rest areas. Illinois, and KE where you drive, as an example, have antiquated facilities. The new ones need far more overnight space for semis. At least 50, and 100 would be better. Ourctranaportation industry is extremely unattractive and over regulated to death. As a result, most drivers are imnugrants. Many come from Serbia, ex Soviet states, as example. Hard workers, Northern European, willing to carve out a peaceful successful career somewhere else. These spots can have solar fields of a square mile if we plan for electric.
10/01/2021 04:24
FIRSTLAST
This is in my corner of Iowa . Low lying land, sand soil, not prime ag land. It grows row crops OK, but you see a lot of melon in this region. I think massive tracts concerted are best selected for non prime ag lands, and that is what worries me about our growth of non fossil sources. What New England is planning makes no sense,laying hundreds of ocean power grid cables through the best oyster beds on the planet. These spider to the off shore monstrously big wind turbines. And you factor class 5, class 6 Hurricane forces as much as 6 to 12 storms a season makes me ask strengths of materials questions? How can something built out of composites survive 150 to 175 mph shearing winds and not be ruined every few years?
10/01/2021 04:27
10/01/2021 04:36
FIRSTLAST
So in reviewing these posts,,you see the world has rapidly moved forward and the 47 states if the US have not. This is,just like the 1960s and the space race. You take the challenge, throw everything in, and advance as a nation that leads, or you become a has been. We have had electrics now for 3 to 5 generations of product. The errors are known, the engineering refined. At least on small class half ton down, we can advance. Getting a reliable truck may take some years to work through. Amazon has taken the lead here, with rolling electric fleet coming out. If they can produce a solution for a 14 hour day vehicle, that would be something. I see it needing a boost every few hours to get through. Or we could develop a hybrid electric with a fuel cell technogy that runs on CO2.
10/01/2021 04:42
10/01/2021 09:54
ASHLEY P
How does CO2 become a fuel? The article says "The energized copper atoms apply low voltage that breaks the carbon dioxide molecules apart. They then rebond, from CO₂ into C₂H₆O." Where did the H6 come from? The article is JUNK.
10/02/2021 04:13
FIRSTLAST
If you are late to game (FORD), best study what GM has accomplished with big bucks investment for as long as Tesla has reached critical success, and past irs iffy days when people may have predicted failure. Hummer, Rivian (not GM, but near to us in the former Mitsubishi plant at Bloomington IL, are a couple near to market platforms. Chrysler in there with a Wrangler (#6 in the European parent company in global market).
10/02/2021 04:18
FIRSTLAST
Here is next 5 years of actual debut vehicles beginning the market swing. Really need to get up to speed here. This is the next bonanza of domestic growth. Your best talent in engineering moving rapidly to this field. Cannot afford to be politically entrenched in old archaic ways. Did people hang in to inside kerosene natural gas lamps when better products arrived? Did tge nation rapidly adopt electricity once it was past the witch stage of scary newness?
10/02/2021 04:26
FIRSTLAST
Race driver demos OWL. This will be the world's fastest car.
10/03/2021 18:46
ASHLEY P
Excuse me. Back up your train to the science station. The article YOU linked to claimed that CO2 turned into ethanol with the addition of copper and electricity. Their chemical equation was INVALID. The article itself asked "where does the Hydrogen (of ethanol) come from?"
10/03/2021 18:47
ASHLEY P
Why did you link to that article claiming CO2 turned into fuel?? It looks like a scam article.
10/04/2021 16:16
ASHLEY P
Take a look at this link about chemical equations. Then compare that info to the info at the link you provided.
10/05/2021 00:39
10/05/2021 00:53
FIRSTLAST
Unless you are a researcher, doubt you have a grasp on the concept. I know I don't, plus labs don't just tell the world their secret breakthroughs. Salaries, buildings, mission statements need funding, the Capitalist method is to market prized research. Sadly, we could have broken from Petroleum dependency decades ago, but they acquire prized research constantly, usually using deception, then smother the breakthrough. I know and can cite examples, this is not a new phenomenon. All you need to do is go back in history and see how conniving Einstein was, and how he abused and how he exploited Tesla who had genius breakthroughs on multiple tangents. Einstein knew how to hob know and build the country club deals that create empires. I have vested a few years learning Tesla and others breakthroughs, and there is a whole movement building momentum to establish his principle breakthroughs that produce zero energy solutions into shareware that can never be owned, buried, or suppressed for greed reasons. The only way the planet heals is a lesser impact, where we quit treating it like a fountain of youth. It is going to happen, or we rapidly decline into attrition and extinction. The animal world is rapidly collapsing already. They are our bellweather, but who pays attention in our cynical narcissism.
10/05/2021 00:54
FIRSTLAST
And like you mentioned, many times these Snake oil salesman sell us down a rabbit hole. I can't assess, and science has to prove repeatability.
10/05/2021 00:55
FIRSTLAST
And like you mentioned, many times these Snake oil salesman sell us down a rabbit hole. I can't assess, and science has to prove repeatability.
10/05/2021 01:03
FIRSTLAST
I have seen a VW project vehicle run on water. Sounds very similar to the concept here. Seeing, and owning the engineering are two different things. The goal of the cenergyvforuns us to not turn those breakthroughs into patents, but instead, publish them in a legal definition that is a public trust, not licenseable, where any and all can go create the zero energy breakthrough. vis not znti capitalism, it is not socialism. It is anti totalitarianism where powerful corporations destroy genius and smother invention,xdo they can exploit the familiar old gang members that got them where they are today, like francking, oil markets,,chemical industries that give us all cancer because they ingest it into our foods and animals. This thinking is very parallel to your conservatives balking at Fauce, CDC, and big Pharma providing us the only possible get out of jail card.
10/05/2021 01:10
FIRSTLAST
Related point, NPR is now covering suppression of ivermectin stories. Might want to look that up. I worked for a 91 yr old parent of a classmate. Friday, they got booster shot 3. Today, they looked like he'll. It really knocked them down, super red eyes, gmheart all over the place (he is a high risk cardiac patient, chronic smoker history). Gonna bide my time on this next round, plus not eligible.
10/05/2021 05:12
FIRSTLAST
Research paper on the discovery. Argonne is funded by DOE, snd serves like Los Alamos, to advance physical sciences to achieve solutions to pressing current day problems. July 2020 issue of Nature Energy has the detailed write up.
10/05/2021 05:23
FIRSTLAST
Here is the published research article in Nature Energy. Will have to study this.
10/05/2021 09:09
ASHLEY P
Why did you say Argonne National Labs, from a 2020 article, when ORNL has the same story from 2012?? Do you believe you can get a Hydrogen atom from CO2 and Copper???????????? That's what your link said.
10/05/2021 09:11
ASHLEY P
And I can build a car to run on water. It's SIMPLE. Drop your battery charger leads into clean water. One side bubbles H2, one side bubbles O. Burning that is easy. But what energy goes in? What energy comes out? That's the problem.
10/05/2021 09:12
ASHLEY P
And storing CO2 is dangerous. Read this story.
10/06/2021 23:19
FIRSTLAST
Did you read my post on the 450 billion pipeline to network together all the upper midwest ethanol plants,,liquefy b their CO2,,pimp it tho the Balkan patch most likely in North Dakota, which the scheme calls for it to be injected into strata. Bet sour puss Mitch thwarts that.
10/06/2021 23:24
FIRSTLAST
Tell me Mt Tea Party,Republicans were falling over themselves go pass z 7 trillion increase in our long term d we fiction under trumpty dumpy. Now they refuse to even maintain the same debt THEY CREATED with zn extension. And if we justxre-staffes the IRS which Trump refused to do, we could actually start plumbing our bills instead of ignoring our amazing debt levels. He'll you Reoublicans arezscreaming bloody murder St your on line xstream getting reported go the IRS. PATHETIC. zero fiscal backbone. I bet they don't run their personal finances on credit. Probably detest it.
10/06/2021 23:25
FIRSTLAST
New phone, it likes to write words I don't provide it. Oh well.
10/06/2021 23:28
FIRSTLAST
2020 Covidxdeaths 342000 (largely prefer vaccine). 2021 Covid deaths 353,000 with 3 most to go, largely post vaccine. 353000 less Relublicans. Hmm. Think about that.
10/06/2021 23:44
FIRSTLAST
Tell me Mr Tea Party, Republicans were falling over themselves go pass 7 trillion increase in our long term debt increase under trumpty dumpy. Now they refuse to even maintain the same debt THEY CREATED with an extension. And if we just re-staffed the IRS which Trump refused to do because he is a tax snake and cheat!, we could actually start paying our bills instead of ignoring our unfathomable debt levels. Nuts, you Republicans are screaming bloody murder because PayPal and others will have to report revenue over $600 from dumping your stolen goods from the local department store. Gee, how long would we run a deficit if street sales produced IRS obligation? Republicans today,s version, are PATHETIC. zero fiscal backbone. I was raised by industrialists, died in xwool Louboutin. We never borrowed a dime in my parents household. But it takes growing up in the great depression under parents who counted every last penny,, and found every hidden trick to economize to engrain that fiscal conscience. You can bet these wayward spineless Republicans don't run their personal finances on credit. Their preacher told them to detest it.
10/06/2021 23:52
FIRSTLAST
A volcamo produced sulfur dioxide and that knocked people out. You cannot explain that event through CO2 vtop and bottom water. There was trapped methane, and that is a powerful force of energy. Methane is actually vastly worse for climate change cand temp increase than CO2, znd under Trump,,we refused to even deal with massive releases at Odessa TX caused by tracking. Until we can be honest about ships dumping methane, drillers dumping methane, we cannot get to first base on fixing out rapidly dying planet. Faster the public, of their own accord, vote with theur checkbooks to buybele tric vehicles and get off gas, the better we will all be.
10/07/2021 09:25
ASHLEY P
Scientific American magazine said it was CO2. Firstlast says it wasn't. Firstlast is a known liar
10/07/2021 09:29
ASHLEY P
Firstlast = Brandon. Google "Let's go Brandon".
10/07/2021 09:35
ASHLEY P
I wonder why your local paper stopped printing your letters to the editor. Could it be lack of logic? False accusations?
10/08/2021 00:42
FIRSTLAST
Yeah right, so if a scientist took samples and ran a gas chromatography lab machine he would be able to write above a wild asked guess level. Short of actual instrumentation, good luck on that one. Now when you link two wildly divergent points, is that just fir kicks, the character assasination you just performed. Liable is crime in case you are ignorant of the law. When Fiona Hill called iut Trump in first vhearingvcir lying about Vladimir Putin being behind the 2016 election hacking, NOT UKRAINE, did you likewise decide she lied once upon a time, tgerefore abd therefore Trump wasn't blowing crap at America about Russia rigging the fake illegitimate 2016 Trump over Clinton election?
10/08/2021 00:42
FIRSTLAST
Yeah right, so if a scientist took samples and ran a gas chromatography lab machine he would be able to write above a wild asked guess level. Short of actual instrumentation, good luck on that one. Now when you link two wildly divergent points, is that just fir kicks, the character assasination you just performed. Liable is crime in case you are ignorant of the law. When Fiona Hill called iut Trump in first vhearingvcir lying about Vladimir Putin being behind the 2016 election hacking, NOT UKRAINE, did you likewise decide she lied once upon a time, tgerefore abd therefore Trump wasn't blowing crap at America about Russia rigging the fake illegitimate 2016 Trump over Clinton election?
10/08/2021 00:55
FIRSTLAST
Our paper was dumped into a boat load of papers acquired by Gate House News. Their modus operandi is to elimate about 50 staff, editorial, ad sales, secretaries, photographers, reporters, sports writers, and have one college age 23 year old girl write a couple hack local pieces of mis spelled, factually challenged not historically relevant stories a week, and call that farce news. The rest of copy us key written fir Des Moines IA, state capital, or copy pasted from AP, and their parent USA Today. Straw that broke it,,they sold presses first,,printed 135 miles away, trucked in daily. Then they put the building up for sale. It is size of a mid size grocery store, concrete and brick, last forever construction. When they told me I owed them $52 bad cut neviff d Ed liveries, znd I was in autopay of their terms, I just had no incentive to fork out money for their ineptitude. It's been a year now. No be locally puts in editorials. There is nobefitorial editor, and they fill the page with irrelevant crap from the coasts. Oh, they capped length at two short paragraphs, like 50 words total. This has played out all cross America. Local core of communities gutted of their communications soul, and the solitary watch dog on government oversight, which we desperately need here.
10/08/2021 01:03
FIRSTLAST
If a volcano produced the massive energy that forced that water turnover, there was methane present, and sulphuric acid. I looked it up and CO2 is denser than methane. The denser gas is going to affect sleeping humans scrambling to breathe. I doubt any of the 3 was tolerable. They complained of burned airways.
10/08/2021 09:08
ASHLEY P
Focus Brandon. My claim was that storing C02 is dangerous. When it escapes it will SMOTHER people/animals.
10/08/2021 13:55
FIRSTLAST
qualifier: copy and pasted: Pure oxygen can be deadly. Our blood has evolved to capture the oxygen we breathe in and bind it safely to the transport molecule called haemoglobin. If you breathe air with a much higher than normal O2 concentration, the oxygen in the lungs overwhelms the blood's ability to carry it away.
10/08/2021 13:58
FIRSTLAST
I worked around Bleach (ammonia) one day in open air. It about knocked me out. There are many lethal substances when heavy exposure occurs are lethal. When the industrial property my families factory was sold, the huge warehouse could not be sold because ground water was soaked with benzene. There is no process to extract ground water table benzene. You have to set up air exchange systems, and it will always be there even if give it years to air out. That portion had to be sold cash on contract. The source was tank alley, a quantity of 1930s era gasolline distributors in this street block.
10/11/2021 10:02
ASHLEY P
Firstlast, serious question: Are you a monkey?
10/13/2021 15:49
ASHLEY P
Are you, Firstlast, a monkey? If so, what type?
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